
This is the anniversary of "the accident" that saw USS Vincennes (a.k.a. "Freedom's Fortress") bring down an Iranian passenger jet over Persian Gulf, killing all 290 people on board. It is a shame that the truth has never been told about what really happened on that day and virtually nobody has been reprimanded for their actions. 290 families, their friends and associates, along with millions of their other countrymen and women were given yet another reason to hate the world super-power's uncontrolled and senseless military machine.
My thoughts today are with Leila Behbahani, a 3 year old passenger on that flight, who "was still dressed in her tidy blue dress, black shoes, white socks, and little gold bangles on her wrists" when found.

Thanks Pedram, for bringing up their memory.
That kid would have been a 19 years old now.
Posted by: Dot at July 3, 2004 02:32 PMSo what was the true story? Perhaps we should disarm? That would be great, lets put ourselves at the mercy of the world? The story as I remember it is that the plane was purposely driven toward the ship to provoke it.
These passengers will be martyrs, Allah is great. Soon I will have my 19 virgins!
A.H.
You are an idiot, no more. Shame on you.
No, don't disarm, but know where the F... to use and where not to use your deadly weapons.
Posted by: Faramin at July 3, 2004 05:07 PMNo I am not an idiot.
Just like the Egypt Air flight where the co-pilot said "I put myself in the hands of Allah." Then the plane started a nose dive. The Pilot returned to the cockpit and could be heard saying "What are you doing, stop that, help me pull up!" The wreck was blamed on mechanical failure. Yeah, uh-huh, sure.
And if it weren't for all of those deaths the statement from the co-pilot's family would have been comedic. His mother said "He was a Muslim, so it cannot be suicide, he wouldn't do that."
Let me preface all that by saying that every Moslem I have ever met was a very sane, kind hearted person. But anecdotal evidence suggests that Middle Easterners like to use jumbo jets as missiles.
Posted by: A.H. at July 3, 2004 06:31 PMWow A.H. way to slap a blanket generalization on millions of people by virtue of their geography simply because an exceedingly small group of people within the confines of that geography are insane, murdering pieces of filth that use Islam as a shield to hide behind.
Way to go moron.
Posted by: K at July 3, 2004 06:38 PMA.H.
You are fucking messed up in the head buddy. You should be ashamed of this horrible act instead of being such a fucking idiot. No, no one tells American government to disarm, but make sure that the morons in power can distinguish between a passanger airline heading toward their normal destination with a military aircraft.
God saves us all with fellow Americans such as you. You are a total shame to our society.
R
Posted by: Ramin at July 3, 2004 07:00 PMAlso read this piece : http://freethoughts.org/archives/000647.php
Posted by: Ali at July 3, 2004 08:48 PMI love it when the right opportunity presents itself for people like A.H. to show their true face and lose the respect of the few who may have actually sympathized with their point of view at some point. I'm sorry to admit to have been one such person. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I'm deeply ashamed of my military and those who control it. Love the USA, it's time to change it for the better.
Posted by: at July 3, 2004 09:30 PM"But anecdotal evidence suggests that Middle Easterners like to use jumbo jets as missiles."
First of all that's only ever happened on 911. So if you're the type of person that likes to generalize things from one incedent go right ahead. I'll also say this, when have you ever heard of a person of Iranian nationality commiting an act of terrorism? NEVER. All you ever hear on the news is Iran funding Hezbollah who are Arabs, and even then it's never against Americans. You may bring up the Marine barracks in Lebanon, but I'm sure if the US had sufficient evidence of this then they would have attacked Iran a long time ago. Especially with old Ronnie at the helm.
I am sorry for what happened to that flight and I certainly hope that the systems that were supposed to warn the weapon operators have been improved and the likelihood of a similar incident is reduced.
mehdi, I don't get it, so funding terrorism is ok, as long as Americans aren't targeted? What kind of a logic is that? So some Hezbollah loonie can kill or kidnap me and it is ok because I am not American? BTW I think the hostage crises in Teheran was pretty clear cut terrorism and the victims of that incident IIRC were quite American.
Posted by: pp at July 5, 2004 09:37 AMpp,
Are you so sure it was a mistake? Consider for a moment, that in a country with so many people as dumb as A.H. who actually find it OK to target a passenger flight for some fake reasons, the government could easily get away with doing such a thing intentionally.
Funding terrorism is not OK, not against the US, not against anybody else. The statement was in response to A.H.'s claim that "But anecdotal evidence suggests that Middle Easterners like to use jumbo jets as missiles". This is just nonsense, and such evidence does not exist, especially not against Iranians. That's what mehdi wanted to point out.
Posted by: PK at July 5, 2004 11:41 PMIm sure that it was an accident, a horrible one at that. Im also sure that there isnt a day that goes by that those responsible dont think about what they had done.
Posted by: Jerod - New York at July 6, 2004 09:35 AM"Im also sure that there isnt a day that goes by that those responsible dont think about what they had done."
How do you know? were you one of 'em?
"anecdotal evidence suggests that Middle Easterners like to use jumbo jets as missiles."
Actually anecdotal evidence suggests that the Americans like to use missiles to down jumbo jets, blow up houses, cars and entire neighborhoods all filled with innocent civilians.
Further anecdotal evidence suggests that very stupid Americans are tricked very easily by their government.
Posted by: Mehran at July 7, 2004 10:04 AMThe ship didn't just fire. The Plane was assuming an attack angle and heading directly at the ship, something quite odd for a passenger jet. So stop calling me a racist for pointing that out.
Posted by: A.H. at July 10, 2004 10:50 AMI agree with AH. Little Leila Behbahani would have grown up to be a terrorist anyway. Don't ask me why, we Republicans can predict the future.
The plane was clearly full of 290 terrorists ON THE WAY to commit a terrorist act. It was a threat because it was flying, planes are not supposed to be in the air so it was shot down.
This was justified. We must draw the line with the 2 billion Muslim terrorists and don't say I'm racist for generalising.
They want to kill all of us, everyone of them. They hate us. But don't ask a Muslim- because he will dispute this by giving an intelligent statement about his tolerance for the West which would clearly be deception.
God Bless AmeriKKKa, and Bush/Cheney 2004!
Posted by: vietnamvet at July 10, 2004 06:08 PMA.H.,
You are indeed a racist. Go seek some help.
Posted by: PK at July 10, 2004 09:16 PMDo you see how quickly everyone becomes polarized? As far as I know, no one discussing this issue was physically present during the event, or has superior knowledge about the event, nor has superior judgement or ability to put all the facts together to put forth an indisputable or uncontroversial explanation. Its far easier to express regret at these types of events which are bound to happen when everyone is so polarized and paranoid about each other.
Posted by: youthink? at July 13, 2004 12:29 PM