
This puritan fanatical view of the world and how it relates to anything of sexual nature is really annoying in U.S.
Sure it is sad to see that for a pop star to get any publicity, she must either show a semi-bare breast or exchange saliva with another female, but get over this big deal some make about seeing less skin than you'd see at a swimming pool. It's 2004 and much of the "developed world" has managed to get over some of the basic nature questions like a human being's nude body, but here a nipple is only to be exposed if you are either on the set of Jerry Springer or half drunk in Mardi Gras. In this case, even THAT was covered! O' well.
Posted by Pedram at February 1, 2004 11:19 PMWho cares what a bunch of creepy pop stars do. Besides, the boobs are just silicone anyway, its not like they're real. God forbid that these stupid ninconpoops in entertainment should figure out how unimportant they actually are.
Posted by: A.H. at February 2, 2004 09:34 AMI couldn't care less what Janet Jackson does and didn't see the actual scene until watching the news today. My only problem with it is the act of a man ripping off her top to expose it. Don't like the violent aspect of it. And then for them to all go on about it being an "accident." Yes, most women wear pasties under their tops just in case someone rips them off.... Ugh.
Posted by: Kristen at February 2, 2004 01:19 PMI couldn't care less what Janet Jackson does and didn't see the actual scene until watching the news today. My only problem with it is the act of a man ripping off her top to expose it. Don't like the violent aspect of it. And then for them to all go on about it being an "accident." Yes, most women wear pasties under their tops just in case someone rips them off.... Ugh.
Posted by: Kristen at February 2, 2004 01:19 PMSorry for the repeat post! Browser froze up on me.
Posted by: Kristen at February 2, 2004 01:23 PMActually, it wasn't a pasty. It was a pierced nipple with a solar ringlet...am I some kind of pervo for noticing these details? Don't answer that. Anyhow, on the issue of puritanism...this might be an interesting thread for a discussion of american religious puritanism, which eschews anything of a sexual, erotic nature as debased, animalistic, sinful. Granted that this kind of thinking stems from the american Christian heirtage, what we actually have here is two examples of the neoplatonism implicit in Christian cultures. Some people are worked up, outraged by a small exposure of human flesh, as the legions of huffy parents proved. Then, you have the pro nudity legions, all of act ridiculously (slobber, slobber, pant, pant, pant)when one litle boobie pops out of a leather cup. This too, is an example of neo-platonism, but inverted. Sexuality is still a debased construct, though it becomes a celebration of the debauched, the decadent rather than a condemnation of it. Is it possible for western cultures to think of sexuality on a non-debased level? My Lebaneese friend tends to think of western cultures as being predominantly Freudian in nature. Any thoughts on this (incoherent?)spiel?
Posted by: taqdeermachen at February 2, 2004 04:26 PMMaybe your browser had an unexpected 'wardrobe malfuntion' HAHAHAHA
Posted by: A.H. at February 2, 2004 04:27 PM"My Lebanese friends tend to think of western cultures as being predominantly Freudian in nature"
What does this mean? That Europeans, and those of European ancestry, get stuck in developmental stages where they are traumatized...by sex? Could you elaborate, please?
Meanwhile, my take on this is that Janet is getting a little long in the tooth, and evidently the Jackson family motto is "no such thing as bad publicity." But Justin still looks like a little blond boy in middle school, and is SO not believable as a macho, sex-crazed rapist, or whatever he was going for. Fake! J'accuse! Back to the Boy Band. Now, if Janet had ripped something off of him,like maybe his tufty little beard-lette, or bitten off a chunk of his ear, we would have a much easier time buying the whole "Oops, -- just got carried away with the passion and the drama of it all!"
Posted by: winterwife at February 2, 2004 08:58 PMSelling more albums?
The only problem that I have with such public exposure is that this event was G rated and presumably millions of kids have watched it. If it was not rated, I wouldn't mind watching the two doing it.
No frickin' big deal.
Posted by: Ramin at February 2, 2004 09:44 PMPretty bizarre, isnīt it? Justin Timberlake is such a non-sexual guy for me... really, he still looks like a kid, and worse, with a slight homo aura. And Janet... hey, thatīs paedophilia too? Does it run in the family?
But really this "showing skin" thing is funny. In Brazil you see women with such small bikinis, and they are all family girls (true) and would never consider taking the tops off, or going to a nudism beach. The vast majority feels fairly covered by those tiny strips of cloth, and what is funnier is that for most of the guys they are dressed, there is no "oohh, ahh, slobber slobber pant pant". As I hate the standard carioca beach etiquette (meaning I hate to be careful about the way I sit, stand up, swimm,etc in order to keep the bikini in place), and I am a mother of a 2-y o (try running after the little brat without being more exposed than you wanted to) I wear the more conservative bikinis.
But in America people are all too concerned about sex.
I have a friend who was told to stop breast feeding her one month-old baby at a restaurant (in the US) because that was considered offensive, indecent. She was not aware of the cultural difference. God, here no one cares where on earth you breastfeed a baby, no one cares, in fact, people usually consider this to be a beautiful scene and men tend to dessexualize a woman doing her motherly duties. I hope it never changes, but who knows? Sometimes cultural exchange scares me, because the parts you donīt like often come hand in hand with the things you like.
Now, if Janet had only thought of breast-feeding Justin, --something new and interesting.
We could have the Puritans (who are they exactly? I mean, after Thanksgiving) and the La Leche League, Gloria Allred, the AIDS people, The Moral Majority,Gephart, and Al Sharpton all screaming and fighting.
That would be fun.