April 30, 2003

Condemn Hate

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I have stayed away from this topic for one reason and one reason only. I wanted to see if any of the Iranian, particularly “Iranian-American” groups, organizations or community associations will have the required fortitude and clarity of conscious to take a stand on this. Sadly, days later, not even a single peep or squeak, as far as I could find.

It is about the bigoted opinions of a certain Senate leader on homosexuality.

Now this is a topic even the most progressive Iranian groups would not touch with a ten foot pole. There’s the cultural bias, along with rampant homophobia topped with the lack of any mandate to stand for what is right, even if that position will seem the most unpopular. Not here! Let the community hounds loose, this “eyeranian” would not be silenced:

Senator Rick Santorum, chairman of the Republican Conference, is the third-ranking Republican in the Senate. He is known for his strong ideological and religious views, Santorum last week decided to make some of them known to the nation. His target was homosexuality. "I have no problem with homosexuality," he said in an Associate Press interview. "I have a problem with homosexual acts."

He didn't stop there.

"If the Supreme Court says you have the right to (homosexual) consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to do anything."

Santorum has the right to his views, twisted as they are. Believing that homosexuality is no different from incest, for example, is absurd. By expressing his hateful views in public, Santorum shows his misguided bigotry. There’s no place for such intolerance in the highest offices of this country though.

Except for a few individual GOP senators, the Republican leadership has remained embarrassingly silent on Santorum's comments. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., called on Santorum to apologize. He refused. Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, said his remarks "have no place in our society."

Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R-R.I., pinpointed the legal dangers lurking in Santorum's remarks. "His premise that the right to privacy does not exist (is) just plain wrong," said Chafee.

There are too many hate crimes committed in this nation and too many crimes against people because of their sexual orientation. When politicians publicize hateful views, they must be condemned. Trent Lott was another GOP leader who confused his own ideology with American diversity. Lott, who resigned his leadership post over racially divisive remarks, had compared homosexuality to kleptomania and alcoholism.

This is another shameful episode for the Republican Party. It is also a shameful chapter for any free-thinking individuals or organization that chose to remain silent and by their action, approved of such narrow-mindedness.

Posted by Pedram at April 30, 2003 10:19 PM
Comments

He's a pinhead, agreed. Now back off the Republican party for a moment. Perhaps the party needs some jumping on, for several good reasons, but not because of Santorum. To carry that logic, all men must be pinheads, all Americans must be pinheads, he's possibly a Mason, so... well you see how it leads. So let's let the lambsting land where it should, uppon the head of the senator. It's sad that so few people spoke out about this, but their silence isn't imputed acceptance. Sometimes people are too embarassed to even acknowledge something, like when you are riding in a car with a friend and one of you passes gas. The other doesn't acknowledge such unpleasantness. Santorum...passing gas oraly. That's a picture, no? Ok so back to the Republicans, but rail against them for what they do as a group, not what one misguided invidual does. You know how it makes your skin crawl when you hear some biggot say "well you know how all those(insert nationality here)are" Thanks for the space,
Dave

Posted by: Dave at May 1, 2003 09:21 AM

"'If the Supreme Court says you have the right to (homosexual) consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to do anything.'"

"Santorum has the right to his views, twisted as they are. Believing that homosexuality is no different from incest, for example, is absurd."

That's not what he's saying.

The statement mentioning incest, bigamy, etc., is not one of Santorum's personal beliefs—it's simply how law works. If the courts rule that states cannot legislate the behavior of consenting adults in private homes with regard to homosexual intercourse, then de facto states also lose the ability to legislate regarding all sexual acts between consenting adults in private homes, regardless of what those acts are.

Now, you can think that's a good thing or a bad thing, but legally there's no way to make laws about some types of sex and not others once the courts establish that states can't touch the subject at all.

It's not a matter of believing that incestual sex and homosexual sex are morally equivilent. It's a matter of whether or not we as a society do or do not want to have laws that address sex at all.

Posted by: Mac at May 1, 2003 12:09 PM

Well, Mac, I think I will go with no laws regarding sex at all, with the exception that minors are still off limits to everyone. This link should explain why I want the government to stay out of the sex and morality business.
Please Read This
I hope the html tags work here. Thanks.

Posted by: Dave at May 1, 2003 12:55 PM

Ok, no html, please cut and paste, it's important.
http://zogby.blogspot.com/2003_04_27_zogby_archive.html#200224311

Posted by: Dave at May 1, 2003 12:56 PM

Like I said, you can be for or against the overall idea, just so long as you don't get confused into thinking its easy to seperate one sex law from the another. The zogbyblog post you cite, Dave, certainly gives one an understandable and straightforward reason to want law and the courts to not touch sex at all, for instance. I've seen arguments in both directions and seen merit in both sides. Today I'm inclined in your direction, but I'd hardly say I've made up my mind completely so far.

My original point, that Santorum is merely stating the central issue of the court case and not expressing any particular opinion regarding homosexual vs. incestuous sex, still stands, of course.

Posted by: Mac at May 1, 2003 01:32 PM

I would be more inclined to give senator Santorum the bennefit of the doubt if he would come out and make that case for himself, to state that he wasn't comparing homosexuality to incest for example, but he hasn't chosen to do so. I wish he would either say "that wasn't what I meant" ("sorry" isn't necessary) or specify "that was exactly what I meant"

Posted by: Dave at May 1, 2003 02:48 PM

Dave wrote: "back to the Republicans, but rail against them for what they do as a group, not what one misguided invidual does."

Okay, here it goes: shame on Republicans as a group as well as their leadership for not condemning obvious hate and bigotry expressed by one of their Senate leaders.

Posted by: Pedram M. at May 1, 2003 05:12 PM